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there were also some questions about the moderator jim lehrer. watch this. >> governor romney do you have a question you would like to ask the directly. >> the president began the segment so i think i get the last word. >> you get the first word in the next segment. >> is there a specific -- >> let me mention the other one -- >> no, let's not. >> before. >> two minutes is up, sir. >> i had five seconds before you interrupted me was -- >> i sometimes wondered if we even needed a moderator ba we had mitt romney. we should rethink that for the next debate. >> joining us now two journalists from the website daily download.com. he said this in defending himself. let me start with you. he said, part of my moderator mission was to stay out of the way of the flow and i had no problems with doing so. my only real personal frustration was discovering was not enough time in that more open format to cover every issue that deserved attention. what do you think of the criticism he's been getting. >> let's just talk about what was on twitter. that let's not com
there were also some questions about the moderator jim lehrer. watch this. >> governor romney do you have a question you would like to ask the directly. >> the president began the segment so i think i get the last word. >> you get the first word in the next segment. >> is there a specific -- >> let me mention the other one -- >> no, let's not. >> before. >> two minutes is up, sir. >> i had five seconds before you interrupted me was --...
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in wednesday's debate you saw romney pushing moderator jim lehrer around pretty much at will. eventually president obama joined in. but here is a flashback of the romney/lehrer face-off from jimmy fallon. >> it's my priority to repeal obama -- >> okay, now, governor romney you are well over the two-minute allotted -- >> jim, i still have 30 seconds here on -- >> if -- >> jim, jim -- just politely going to hush you up a bit. >> going to keep you. >> na, na, na. >> respect the governor -- >> jim, do us all a favor and just -- i think it's a little weird that you're here still. you can just leave and do whatever you want. >> no, i'm the moderator here. >> jim -- >> hold on now. >> i'm going to have to ask you to step down, okay? ja, ja, ja. no. >> that's just a noise. >> jim, jim, jim, would you shut the [ bleep ] up. >> that was a facsimile i think. more from the debate aftermath. the big bird nonsense continues. how did the former gop candidates feel about the mitt romney pledge to stop funding for pbs if elected president? first, rick santorum last night on cnn. >> would you k
in wednesday's debate you saw romney pushing moderator jim lehrer around pretty much at will. eventually president obama joined in. but here is a flashback of the romney/lehrer face-off from jimmy fallon. >> it's my priority to repeal obama -- >> okay, now, governor romney you are well over the two-minute allotted -- >> jim, i still have 30 seconds here on -- >> if -- >> jim, jim -- just politely going to hush you up a bit. >> going to keep you. >> na,...
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maybe he thought jim lehrer was going to do it. i say take him at his word. mitt romney wants us to suck up all the stuff that he's throwing out because he wants to make everybody happy. he's not clear. he's double-talking. that's what he's doing. >> anderson, the problem is if you don't have a mandate for health care which is what mitt romney and republicans want, they don't want to have the mandate, but -- >> except in massachusetts. >> people want to get health insurance, you can't have a system in which you never sign up and you don't pay and then you wait until you're sick because insurance companies can't turn down. that's the problem republicans have. >> that's not what he said, ari. >> now, policy gets complicated. it's harder to talk on a short show like this. it's easier to talk about it in the length of the debate but let me remind you, in 2008, president obama ran when he was trying to get to the left of hillary clinton saying he opposed nafta. he ran on that in ohio. then as soon as the ohio primary was done, he never talked again about renegotia
maybe he thought jim lehrer was going to do it. i say take him at his word. mitt romney wants us to suck up all the stuff that he's throwing out because he wants to make everybody happy. he's not clear. he's double-talking. that's what he's doing. >> anderson, the problem is if you don't have a mandate for health care which is what mitt romney and republicans want, they don't want to have the mandate, but -- >> except in massachusetts. >> people want to get health insurance,...
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she's much more political than jim lehrer. she'll say follow up on that, answer it. >> i think she will. she will be aware of all the critique of jim lehrer that's gone on. i think mark raises a very, very good point, as he so often does. the format for the next debate is a format that favors somebody who is more comfortable with people and who is a little more easy. >> can you fake it? >> well, you know, i think this is a form that -- >> can you fake it? >> i think you can fake it a little bit but not very much. i'm not sure mitt romney is going to be able to fake it. i think the president that we saw in denver the day after the debate is the president that we're likely to see in the town hall meeting coming up next time, and you're going to see joe biden unleashed, i think, in the next debate. >> that's going to be fun. >> maybe the most interesting of all of them. >> tout that one this week. biden is twice his age. he's a lot more friendly. he's almost like a big, you know, a big st. bernard. he slobbers all over you, but h
she's much more political than jim lehrer. she'll say follow up on that, answer it. >> i think she will. she will be aware of all the critique of jim lehrer that's gone on. i think mark raises a very, very good point, as he so often does. the format for the next debate is a format that favors somebody who is more comfortable with people and who is a little more easy. >> can you fake it? >> well, you know, i think this is a form that -- >> can you fake it? >> i...
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there were also some questions about the moderator, jim lehrer, watch this. >> mr. romney, do you have a question you would like to ask the president directly about something he just said? >> jim, the president began this segment, so i think i get the last word. >> you're going to get the first word in the next segment. >> but he gets the first word of that segment, i get the last word -- >> here's a specific. >> mention the other one, let's talk the big one. >> no, let's not. >> two minutes is up, sir. >> i think i had five seconds before you interrupted me was -- >> i sometimes wonder if we even need a moderator because we had mitt romney. we should rethink that for the next debate. >> joining us now two journalists from the website dailydownload.com. lauren is the site's founder, editor and chief also former managing editor "usa today" howie is host of cnn's "reliable sources" and washington bureau chief for "newsweek" magazine. he said, this is jim lehrer, part of my moderator position was to stay out of the way of the flow and i had no problems with doing so. m
there were also some questions about the moderator, jim lehrer, watch this. >> mr. romney, do you have a question you would like to ask the president directly about something he just said? >> jim, the president began this segment, so i think i get the last word. >> you're going to get the first word in the next segment. >> but he gets the first word of that segment, i get the last word -- >> here's a specific. >> mention the other one, let's talk the big one....
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maybe he thought jim lehrer was going to do it. i say, no. take the man at his word. mitt romney wants us to suck up all the stuff he's throwing out. he's not clear. he's double talking. that's what he's doing. >> if you don't have a mandate for health care, which is what mitt romney and the republicans want, they don't want a mandate. but if people want to have health insurance, you can't sign up for something and never pay and then wonder why you get rejected because you don't do the payments. it's easier to talk about it in the length of a debate. let me remind you, in 2008, president obama ran when he was trying to get to the left of hillary clinton, and he opposed nafta. and as soon as that was gone, he never talked again about renegotiating nafta. we found out later he sent one of his top aides to -- >> one at a time, one at a time. let ari finish, please. >> both candidates have engaged in tactical maneuvering. this is nothing new. >> i'm not saying it's anything new and i'm not saying both candidates don't shift and move to the center after primaries and stuff
maybe he thought jim lehrer was going to do it. i say, no. take the man at his word. mitt romney wants us to suck up all the stuff he's throwing out. he's not clear. he's double talking. that's what he's doing. >> if you don't have a mandate for health care, which is what mitt romney and the republicans want, they don't want a mandate. but if people want to have health insurance, you can't sign up for something and never pay and then wonder why you get rejected because you don't do the...
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>> thank you. >> i'm not jim lehrer, i'm not fair. >> that's really tough for obama. in other words, the other guy's -- i love these answers. thanks so much, bob shrum. i knew you wouldn't do this. joan, thanks so much. coming up -- yours at least was legitimate. >>> coming up, what can brown do for you? he's running for re-election up in ohio. but he's got karl rove money machine, whole money machine coming at him, and he's taking him on pretty well. he's doing well. we're going to learn something about winning in a good old state like ohio. >>> republicans have been searching without success over the country for voter fraud, and now they finally found it in their own campaign. the biggest case of alleged registration fraud in the country, and the republicans are caught paying for it and holding the bag. we can't wait to get to that one. >>> we're going to visit that parallel republican universe where mitt romney leads, by the way, in every poll in that universe. the republicans really believe in a liberal conspiracy involving all the pollsters of this country left a
>> thank you. >> i'm not jim lehrer, i'm not fair. >> that's really tough for obama. in other words, the other guy's -- i love these answers. thanks so much, bob shrum. i knew you wouldn't do this. joan, thanks so much. coming up -- yours at least was legitimate. >>> coming up, what can brown do for you? he's running for re-election up in ohio. but he's got karl rove money machine, whole money machine coming at him, and he's taking him on pretty well. he's doing well....
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it was a curious choice of all the journalists that jim lehrer is who they called on for this. the one criticism that i see that resonates the most with me. we have three presidential debates and this was the domestic policy debaltdebate. this was a narrow set of policy questions last night. there were no questions about immigration last night or gay marriage last night. >> women's issues. >> these are major issues in the campaign and there's a movement to diversify the moderator pool a little bit. >> jim lehrer is a historic choice for them, but they treated him as a replacement ref. he should be out of the pool. >> i didn't think he was great. you can't blame the moderator. they had the same. >> he was terrible at his job. >> ultimately this wasn't about jim lehrer but president obama and mitt romney. they both had the opportunity to take advantage of the situation, and one did and one didn't. >> all right. so what do we make of all the 2012 election predictions out there? the original nate, nate silver is in the guest spot next, or is it becoming the nate spot? we had nate c
it was a curious choice of all the journalists that jim lehrer is who they called on for this. the one criticism that i see that resonates the most with me. we have three presidential debates and this was the domestic policy debaltdebate. this was a narrow set of policy questions last night. there were no questions about immigration last night or gay marriage last night. >> women's issues. >> these are major issues in the campaign and there's a movement to diversify the moderator...
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. >> this is the moment when jim lehrer said, tell me your vision of government. i wanted the narrative of, look, i have done a great job, here's my accomplishments. but you know what, if i had been given the ability to do more on stimulus, if we could have pushed harder, then in fact we'd be in an even better place rather than, as a president, he brought up the deficit first. >> it was frustrating that he did not mention any of the tremendous obstructionism that he has faced, especially when mitt romney was talking about when i was in massachusetts, when i was governor. i so wish the president had just looked at him and said you have not been president. you have plot been where i have been. that's small potatoes to what i am doing. >> although maybe he can't. i will say, you know, as i was watching, i kept going back and forth. maybe he can't say you know what, you guys block me. part of what he's doing in a presidential debate is to demonstrate -- is being presidential. >> remember that one of romney's talking points in his own favor was that he was the republic
. >> this is the moment when jim lehrer said, tell me your vision of government. i wanted the narrative of, look, i have done a great job, here's my accomplishments. but you know what, if i had been given the ability to do more on stimulus, if we could have pushed harder, then in fact we'd be in an even better place rather than, as a president, he brought up the deficit first. >> it was frustrating that he did not mention any of the tremendous obstructionism that he has faced,...
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lehrer. >> shoots back. >> didn't take away from his powerful none the less. came across as strong. >> bill: final sound bite here is president obama going after the governor. >> he now says he is going to replace obama care and assure all the good things that are in it where going to be in there and you don't have to worry. and at some point i think the american people have to ask themselves is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they are too good? >> bill: you see, romney looking right at him the whole time with, you know a neutral expression on his face. >> bill: neutral? >> a little disdain. it's not like. >> he has to get rid of that smirk. they both need to improve neutral expression. >> bill: no smirking. >> people think of it as arrogant when he smirks like that. it's not a good expression to hold. >> bill: i agree. >> concern. i'm listening to you, not the huh, that silly smirk that he does. >> bill: i need your advice. tomorrow when i go out on stage to meet jon stewart. >> yeah. >> bill: my instinct i
lehrer. >> shoots back. >> didn't take away from his powerful none the less. came across as strong. >> bill: final sound bite here is president obama going after the governor. >> he now says he is going to replace obama care and assure all the good things that are in it where going to be in there and you don't have to worry. and at some point i think the american people have to ask themselves is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret...
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finally, piers, i thought one of the seminal moments in that debate was near the end, when jim lehrer talked about the lack of bipartisanship, the lack of sitting down together and averting this fiscal cliff that most americans know we're headed towards, and mitt talked about being governor of massachusetts, reaching across the aisle, having to negotiate, et cetera. the president's responses, sometimes you have to say no to people. is that, you know, and the fact is first two years, as mitt pointed out, first two years of his presidency, they just rammed things through without a single republican vote. so i think those were -- that makes it probably one of the really more important debates in american history and perhaps i'm exaggerating because i'm so happy. >> i can't blame you. i can't blame any republicans becausit's been a very bruising few weeks for the republicans and mitt romney and then suddenly everything seems to have turned on its head. you're in a very interesting position as i said earlier because you have debated against both mitt romney and barack obama. interestingly,
finally, piers, i thought one of the seminal moments in that debate was near the end, when jim lehrer talked about the lack of bipartisanship, the lack of sitting down together and averting this fiscal cliff that most americans know we're headed towards, and mitt talked about being governor of massachusetts, reaching across the aisle, having to negotiate, et cetera. the president's responses, sometimes you have to say no to people. is that, you know, and the fact is first two years, as mitt...
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and shame on president obama for not challenging him on that and shame on jim lehrer for not pushing him on that. >> the way that you bring in more revenue, and mitt romney said this beautifully, you put more people to work be you give them jobs. you don't bring more revenue in by putting one american against another. >> you mean like the 47%. >> you don't distribute what you have to someone else. we don't redistribute. >> i think you need to have a conversation with mitt romney. he's the one who wants to divide americans based on the 47%, the takers versus the moochers, the takers versus the makers as paul ryan said. >> he misspoke on that. >> he spent 17 days doubling down, defending that remark. suddenly when he realized poll numbers were tanking, he comes out on fox news and says i didn't really mean that. >> the rasmussen polls out today show that mitt romney has a nice bounce from that debate. >> three states. hang on a second. but jedadai, mitt romney said he was wrong on the 47%. i think that was pretty good of him to say that. show as ls a lot of character. has president oba
and shame on president obama for not challenging him on that and shame on jim lehrer for not pushing him on that. >> the way that you bring in more revenue, and mitt romney said this beautifully, you put more people to work be you give them jobs. you don't bring more revenue in by putting one american against another. >> you mean like the 47%. >> you don't distribute what you have to someone else. we don't redistribute. >> i think you need to have a conversation with...
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jim lehrer is not getting in my way. why didn't he say here is why i stuck out my neck for the american auto industry. >> absolutely. >> it's not just about jobs. i feel american people like to build cars. we love cars. it's in our nature to build them and build the best. it's important that guys and women have jobs making cars. it's important to who we are as americans. maybe general motors was good -- damn it, it's good to have general motors, something passionate that would have gone right to ohio, to pennsylvania, wisconsin. they would have said, damn it, this guy gets how much thrill i get getting on that line every day and turning out these great cars that i want to buy. why didn't -- how about women? a girl ought to know from the time she's 16 her hours are as valuable as the male's hour of work. these are passionate things he believes in. he stood there like he was an observer of romney's performance. i could go on -- i got to let you talk. i could go on. go ahead. >> you could go on. we might want you to stand i
jim lehrer is not getting in my way. why didn't he say here is why i stuck out my neck for the american auto industry. >> absolutely. >> it's not just about jobs. i feel american people like to build cars. we love cars. it's in our nature to build them and build the best. it's important that guys and women have jobs making cars. it's important to who we are as americans. maybe general motors was good -- damn it, it's good to have general motors, something passionate that would have...
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the showdown was in hartford, connecticut, and moderated by jim lehrer of pbs. it was also the year of a new block of voters, that was identified as jonathan alter explained to tom brokaw in the post-debate analysis. >> the swing voter this year goes by a new buzz word. they're called soccer moms. these are white women, living in the suburbs, some of them watch their kids play soccer. four years ago, george bush led bill clinton by ten percentage points, 15 in some polls, with this constituency. this year clinton is crushing dole in all the surveys of this group. it's a tremendous number of voters, white women living in the suburbs. they respond to a certain set of issues, gun control, education, medicare, because many of them are taking care of their elderly parents and they're very concerned about these so-called social issues. dole did not do enough to address these issues directly. clinton, by contrast, mentioned not once, but twice the issue of women being able to stay in the hospital longer when they have a baby, which is a big issue with the so-called soc
the showdown was in hartford, connecticut, and moderated by jim lehrer of pbs. it was also the year of a new block of voters, that was identified as jonathan alter explained to tom brokaw in the post-debate analysis. >> the swing voter this year goes by a new buzz word. they're called soccer moms. these are white women, living in the suburbs, some of them watch their kids play soccer. four years ago, george bush led bill clinton by ten percentage points, 15 in some polls, with this...
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they have two minutes to respond to the question and then jim lehrer's going to narrate the back and forth. there should be enough time. >> one thing i want to say though is that this is going to be for a bunch of young americans their first chance to vote. a lot of the young americans didn't watch the conventions, they had summer vacation. now they're going to be tuning in. what i think they should be talking about is what are they going to do for young people? we have a jobs crisis in this country. we have kids graduating off a cliff every spring with no jobs, huge debt. and romney unfortunately when he was governor of massachusetts actually devastated financial aid for young people trying to go to college. college went up 65%, cost of college 65% under romney as governor, tuition help went down. those -- >> well, college costs have gone up 25% under president obama. what i find so interesting about all the conversation about ryan's budget i hope that jim lehrer and all the media who are watching and commenting on this debate expect the same level of specificity from president obam
they have two minutes to respond to the question and then jim lehrer's going to narrate the back and forth. there should be enough time. >> one thing i want to say though is that this is going to be for a bunch of young americans their first chance to vote. a lot of the young americans didn't watch the conventions, they had summer vacation. now they're going to be tuning in. what i think they should be talking about is what are they going to do for young people? we have a jobs crisis in...
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. >>> only tonight's debate moderator, jim lehrer, knows for sure what questions will be asked. he's getting plenty of advice. just take a look at this snapshot. >> question today, what would you ask the candidates in tonight's debate? >> one of the questions we know is going to be front and center each candidate whether or not the voters actually trust them in handling the economy. >> where'd the money go? who's got the money? who's got my money? and what about a little health care? >> two words, obama care and romney care. >> are you better off than you were three and a half years ago? is the world safer? do you think we're going in the right direction? >> a lot of that, charlie, depends on the questions. >> let's get straight to our cnn contributor margaret hoover and the rest of our unsolicited advice panel. margaret. >> thanks a lot, wolf. here we are, we've got a debate tonight. we have six 15-minute segments on the economy. carly, we were talking before in the green room. you think your question would be about taxes. what would you ask the governor or the president? >> we
. >>> only tonight's debate moderator, jim lehrer, knows for sure what questions will be asked. he's getting plenty of advice. just take a look at this snapshot. >> question today, what would you ask the candidates in tonight's debate? >> one of the questions we know is going to be front and center each candidate whether or not the voters actually trust them in handling the economy. >> where'd the money go? who's got the money? who's got my money? and what about a...
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the cover story details that and i urge everybody involved in this process including jim lehrer to try to make the last 40 days better than what we've seen so far. the country deserves better and these candidates are better than their campaigns in terms of trying to actually tell the truth about the challenges we face. >> thank you to emmy darling mark halperin for leaving us less depressed and less confused than when we started the hour. thanks for your time, mark. >> thanks, alex. >> coming up, not so great expectations, both campaigns try to lower the bar ahead of tonight's debate we will try to sneak a peek inside the playbook. smoke screen and strategy with the obama campaign's ben labolt, just ahead. time for the entrepreneur of the week. andrew is the fourth generation of rosenwach tanks. find his family's wooden water tanks on hundreds of new york city rooftops. these tanks are shaped by hand with half century old tools. he says you don't throw out what works. you just build upon it. watch your business this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nic
the cover story details that and i urge everybody involved in this process including jim lehrer to try to make the last 40 days better than what we've seen so far. the country deserves better and these candidates are better than their campaigns in terms of trying to actually tell the truth about the challenges we face. >> thank you to emmy darling mark halperin for leaving us less depressed and less confused than when we started the hour. thanks for your time, mark. >> thanks, alex....
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the question is then this, what does barack obama or what does jim lehrer do as the moderator. he will anticipate a broad strokes vision about his tax plan. then the question becomes, how do you pay for it? you're going to cut taxes for everybody. it's going to be deficit neutral. you say you're going to close loopholes, deal with deductions, so let's talk about those deductions. you know, home mortgage deduction, charitable giving deduction, health care deduction. are you willing to tell the middle class -- >> tax deduction. >> are you willing to tell the middle class some of these are off the table? if you are, how do you pay for it? >> he's not going to. he has bucket, 17 grand. is that not good enough for you? >> that's the problem. if he starts getting specific like that, what the right wants to hear is not what 80% of the country wants to hear. that's the fundamental problem he has. >> the bar is pretty low for mr. romney. how does he get through the 90 minutes without any further problems? very quickly. >> i've been a big fan of the fact that mitt romney is the gift that
the question is then this, what does barack obama or what does jim lehrer do as the moderator. he will anticipate a broad strokes vision about his tax plan. then the question becomes, how do you pay for it? you're going to cut taxes for everybody. it's going to be deficit neutral. you say you're going to close loopholes, deal with deductions, so let's talk about those deductions. you know, home mortgage deduction, charitable giving deduction, health care deduction. are you willing to tell the...
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i'm surprised jim lehrer didn't ask about it. i was surprised romney didn't affirmatively try to defuse it himself. i was surprised that obama didn't bring it up. biggest surprise for me of the night is that it didn't come up. it's been the dominant thing in our debate for the last few weeks. >> david axelrod is coming up. jon meacham, you look over the past 25 years, 30 years or so, and you look at the republican presidential candidates who all have strengths, they've all been remarkable men in their own way, but not good debaters. you know, republicans have held our breath through the john mccain debates and the george w. bush debates and the bob dole debates and the george h.w. debates. again, a great man, a horrific debater. you know, the famous jon lovitz line, "i can't believe i'm losing to this guy." playing michael dukakis. you really do have to go back to ronald reagan to find a republican that was in command during a presidential debate. and i predict that's going to excite the republican base in a way it hasn't been ex
i'm surprised jim lehrer didn't ask about it. i was surprised romney didn't affirmatively try to defuse it himself. i was surprised that obama didn't bring it up. biggest surprise for me of the night is that it didn't come up. it's been the dominant thing in our debate for the last few weeks. >> david axelrod is coming up. jon meacham, you look over the past 25 years, 30 years or so, and you look at the republican presidential candidates who all have strengths, they've all been remarkable...